In lieu of all the movie's racefail wank, I thought I'd bring up something I haven't seen anyone else discussing. As anyone who is familiar with my Avatar fanart probably knows, I'm pretty big on the Dangerous Ladies. When it was announced that Zuko was going to be Indian, my first though was "Oh man. Indian!Azula." And most of the Fire Nation will be, too. For some reason, the thought of the Dangerous Ladies being Indian pleases me- I love their original designs, of course, but I'm also a big fan of Indian women's fashion and design. It's possibly the only thing I'm looking forward to with the movie trilogy. Not to mention that the addition of three badass ladies of color might make up for losing Katara. (As far as I'm concerned, she's not in the movie.) Thoughts?
Wow, that's brilliant!I'm of Indian heritage myself, and I agree, it's going to be cool if they inject more Indian influeneces into the Fire Nation, even if it does mess with the Avatar Universe.I love Ty Lee's look. Not all Indians are that shade of brown, Mai could still look like her pale self, but I love her hair. <3 For her, you could make her wear a long peshwas, which is like a long, loose fitted dress that has fitted pants underneath.
Hnggggggggggggggggggggg can't wait to see some Mai chackrams
I... wow. I have no problem with this. In fact, just the opposite.
You know, I was never all that upset at the idea of an Indo-Iranian Fire Nation. It's definitely a change from the series, but culturally, it makes a lot of sense, with Agni being an Indian goddess and with the pre-Islamic faith of the Iranian peoples being Zoroastrianism. If nothing else, if done well, it would make a really neat contrast with the explicitly East Asian Earth Kingdom. Also, I always love your art and this one is no exception.
That's really cool, Yamino! I only just noticed the henna on Ty Lee's hands. There's always a lot of interesting color and patterning in Indian clothing -- we enjoyed looking through some of it when making a little alternate Indian!Irah costume for Gaang Jr: >>75126I also like the nose piercing that Azula has -- it really seems to fit her design.
Thanks for the positive comments, guys!>>76727 Nice suggestion with the peshwa. If I draw them again, I'll try that instead. You might be able to tell I was kinda wingin' it with her outfit. XD She ended up looking more like Queen Amidala, lol. And yes, I know not all Indina girls are that dark, but I guess I wanted to try giving her a darker skin, just for contrast to her original design. <3>>76730 I never thought about it, but that's a really good point about Agni!>>76731 I agree, my favorite things about Indian fashion are the gaudy details and colors. They're so... delicious and shiny. <3 I really like the details on that drawing you linked to.
Well when you put it like that...
I never thought that Mai could work with actual skin tone, but it looks like you proved me wrong!
>>76726I came buckets. Shame the movie designs won't be on par with that, but I don't care.Awesome fanart is awesome.
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I don't think anyone really had a problem with the Indian Fire Nation. Okay, not as much of a problem as with everything else anyway.
Indian!Ty Lee doing yoga poses!
I am hot for Indian Mai.This drawing in general, really.
The movie will likely not have designs this interesting (what with things like Cliff Curtis's Grecco-Roman Chinese Samurai Olive Garden armor) but at least we have cool drawings like this.A fantasy Indian nation would have been pretty kickass, I just can't shake the notion that M. Night isn't going to do it well (nor can I shake the notion that if we were gonna see it, I'd have much preferred a different franchise to host it, rather than this one.)Also, Mai looks awesome.
Nice pic. Brown Azula looks like M.I.A...
One or the things I really like about this, is that Azula still has her "claw" nails. It's one of those things that a lot of artists seems to ignore. Though, to be honest, even the series itself seems to have forgotten about them after season two.
>>76726This stirs in me an intense desire to witness Azula leading off a fire-weaving Bollywood dance routine.If that happens, M Night, all is forgiven...Seconding the Agni/Zoroastar sense this cultural troping makes, combining in one warfaring nation-state the two ancient civilisations who both claim to have invented chess (oh, the arguments I've heard...). The production's been so culturally autistic up to now I heavily doubt it will happen, but bt the very least it would counterbalance the 'Prince of Persia' movie having no god damn Persians in it.
Guys, I just thought of something.Indian!Fire Nation means that the movie for book 3 can be Bollywood-style.
>>76751Mai and Azula get rid of their nails after Appa's Lost Days to fit their hands into their Kyoshi Warrior gloves. I've actually looked into this.
>>76751 What? I thought it was because Ty Lee was complaining of scratch marks.
>>76755WELL, >>76754 is the Nickelodeon reason, but we all know what really prompted it.
Now that we've officially passed into "tales of ribaldry" territory...Kama Sutra
Azula looks like M.I.A
>>76760 Damn it Genome, this is already hot as is.
>>76751 At first I was like "Nah ah, no way," and then I looked. http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep60/ep60-21.png http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep60/ep60-35.png Nails, she still has. Claws, not so much. How sad. Perhaps she tired of them?>>76754 Source, please? I wish to know where to find these kinds of things.
>>76770I don't know what you mean by "source," considering it's all speculation. It only really makes sense, though, because shit, having those claws in those gloves would be ridiculously painful.
Oh man. Azula. I would hit that like a house on fire.
>>76780That... doesn't make sense.
>>76780I'm not sure that analogy makes any sense. ...but the point still stands.
>>76781>>76782Damn you Genome! I was a few seconds too slow on the submit button.
>>76780Agreed. Brown Azula is fucking Hot!
This is a lovely piece of art, but it still doesn't sit right with me. If you had left the movie out of it, if this were just another AU fantasy, then I wouldn't care as much. And let's face it, from the way they appear to be wussifying Katara, the main female protagonist of the show, I don't hold much hope for Ozai's Angels, should they get that far. If one badass female fighter is too much for them to take, there's no way they'll do these three justice, they'll probably decide to make them generic catty meeean grrls if they aren't ignored altogether.If they really wanted to give Indians more prominence in the Avatar world, they should have left the other cultures alone and done something with Guru Pathik and his background. I would have been okay with that, might have even been interesting depending on how they presented it. Call me a wet blanket if you will, but I can't find a single redeeming feature about this film. Not even pretty Indian art and fashion.
>>76805
>>76806Derp de derp, Ninja. Notice how I never said I hated her artwork. Next time try an intelligent comeback instead of a meme.
>>76808Hater's still gonna hate.
>>76805We have a thread with the sole purpose of containing posts like this.
>>76810Maybe, but this thread *did* start separate from the movie thread just by virtue of having the artwork, and his post would have seemed out of place in the movie thread. What would they have done, stuck a ">>76726" on there and post?
>>76811Only the first sentence is relevant to this thread; the rest is just bitching about the movie. I don't see how it would have been out of place beyond said sentence, which could easily be removed without effecting the rest of the post at all.
wait I thought this was a thread about Yamino posting delicious fanart but now I guess we're bitching about the movie again and also I'm apparently posting ITT more than I thought I was oh man where did Yamino go
Apparently now anyone who disagrees with the racebenders is really just Ninja in disguise?
>>76819Apparently.(Though, slight misnomer, Racebending is the name of the group, short for , which refers to Paramount "bending the races." So, technically, the movie production are "Racebenders," if you use the word that way.)But yeah, this is really not the thread to discuss the movie much further, this is about Yamino's picture up there, and perhaps, what could have been.
SO ANYWAY GUYSI'm totally imagining Ty Lee in Bollywood, and it is fantastic.
So what's the Indian!FN version of this?
>>76826Whoops, my bad
>>76831Agni Kai.
In my defense, as the "bitchy" poster, the whole reason this fanart was created was because of the movie, yes? And Yamino added some comments about the movie too, yes? So why am I suddenly restricted from talking about it when it was in context?>>76819It was a gamble, but he's the one mostly posting stupid memes in lieu of a response and posted the exact same one in the movie thread.Now that I've said my piece, carry on with Bollywood Avatar if that's what floats your boat and I'll try to keep my comments in the movie thread.
>>76831Crazula's hallucinations.
Once again, the Douchebag makes everything better.
I drew this in response to Hina on Tegaki. <3 I was so flattered that she liked my design enough to make her own drawing based on it!
>>76901Yes! Now gather your circus and dance a meticulously choreographed Hindi chart hit cover to show your appreciation!
Dangerous Desi on tegaki, continued!
;D
>>76995WHY ARE YOU THE BEST PERSON EVER
>>76991>>76995
This little sketch was posted by "Azula" (http://azula.livejournal.com/). It's so cute. <3
>>76995In the background: something that used to be a house.
Is a crime against humanity, and I hope Shyamalan kills himself when this movie fails.
>>77007Dude, I dunno if I could wish DEATH upon someone who happens to mess up an adaptation. You guys are fucking intense. Also insane.
>>77007This is a happy place. Get out.
>>76995 That was hotter than vindaloo times crore. I need fifty gallons of raita to cool myself down from this.... Lame Indian-food comparisons stop now.FN-Bollywood/Bhangra dance number NAO!>>76760I whole"heart"edly agree.
>>77010>You guys>implying we're all douchebags like this guy¬_¬
>>77022Perhaps by "you guys," he meant, "you guys who want Shyamalan to die."
can't believe no one's mentioned hookahs yet...
>>77022Oh Anon, don't pout. It's unbecoming.Anyway, I did just mean that guy.
>>770491. Break out the hookah2. Get Ty Lee high3. ????4. Profit!
>>77049Five to one there's cactus pulp in there.
>>77053Honestly, I'm getting tired of cactus juice being the alpha and omega of mind-altering substances in the Avatar world.Polite sage for no real contribution.
>>77054It's probably because it's the only one that was actually mentioned in show, but yeah. I mean, for all we know, that's opium in that hookah.
THIS THREAD <3Needs more DesiMai though!
>>77007Brown , pale, it's Azula so it's all good. The movie is gonna be shit, but brown Azula is all good with me...
>>77049 Haha!! Believe it or not, my next drawing HAS HOOKAS. (And I started it before seeing this post.) XDI love you guys <3
P.S. I should probably call it a "shisha", since that's how I always heard them called when I went to Turkey. "Hookah" just looks like a slang term for a loose woman. Although there will be those, as well.
>>77083>>77084You have my attention.
>>77083haha, fantastic. hookah was invented for the inevitable indian!tyzula.
>>77082 Then you are a fool.
>>77138I dunno, man. I used to think that a non-pale Azula just wouldn't work, but now that I've seen this my mind has been changed. Now, I'm not one to fling accusations of racism around like so many water balloons, but the more you talk the higher my eyebrow rises.
>>77141 i'm not racist I'm just opposed to any "interpretation" of Azula that differs so significantly from the series. I'm opposed to the whole enterprise if you hadn't noticed.
>>77163So DIFFERENT = BAD? Gotcha.
>>77163Oh, please. AU is fun.
There's too much arguing and not enough arting going on in here.
>>77183Ty Lee to the rescue!In other news, someone needs to draw Indian!Mai with a pair of these babies. Too heavy to throw, so they're not exactly her style, but she'd still look incredibly badass holding them. They killed Dracula with a kukri, you know. The bowie knife in his heart was just to hold him still.
>>77184Ooh, that's hot. I especially love that delicious folded metal texture. <3 Definitely up to Mai-standards. Perhaps a bit big (she's only used throwing knives, as far as I could tell) but there's no reason why Indian!Mai wouldn't use bigger blades.
>>77166 I'm on board with this version of Mai and Ty Lee, but this Azula... so goddamned ugly I can't stand it.
>>77183So beautiful! I love their blushy faces and Mai an d Azula's lovely little yellow eyes.
>>77188You are lucky that I do not have a disappoint Ty Lee reaction face.
>>77184Does she carry a jar of piss around, too?
>>77183>You're tearing me apart!When you treat me so unkind?WHAT GOES OOOONNIN YOUR MIND?
Still waiting for this mysterious hookah Indian!Azula/Ty Lee art. Still waiting.
That one is kind of huge and detailed, so don't hold your breath. ;) Especially not when this whole week is being dedicated to Lady Gaga art because OMG I'M SEEING HER TOMORROW.
>>77271 Nice. :O I saw that she linked to your art on her twitter--that must have been really exciting!
>>77271AHHH SO JEALOUS I DON'T GET TO SEE HER UNTIL AUGUST :( :( :(
I did not know how to react when she linked to my poster. Even know sometimes I have to doublechek her tweets (which I fav'd!) to remind myself it wasn't just a dream. XD; I'm hoping I can meet her tomorrow before/after her concert and give her some prints of the more popular drawings I made of her, including the Telephone poster she tweeted.In a last-ditch attempt to keep this thread somewhat on topic, here is a sketch of Lady Gaga if she was in ATLA. (This should be its own thread, lol. Or maybe in a thread of "If ___ was in Avatar...."
Oh holy shit, you should make that a comic! Those hair loops are bitchin'.Good luck giving the picture to her. :3 Let us know how it goes!
What we need is some femslash pairing the original trio with their Indian counterparts
>>77299
>>77291>"If ___ was in Avatar...."I'm aight with that.
If Yamino was in Avatar... shit would be trippin'.
>>77325see>>72675
>>77029How does "Milli" sound like a boy's name?Also, on topic. East Indians. Fuck yeah.>>77183HUHHHHHHHNNNNG Delishush Mai.
>>76726Aren't they considering a Korean actress for Azula?Last I've heard.
>>77355No, this was apparently a casting call for her:Thursday, Mar. 12, 2009, 11:04 AM PacificTHE LAST AIRBENDER (Azula)Feature FilmSAGProducers: Sam Mercer, Jose Roderiguez, Kathleen KennedyDirector: M. Night ShyamalanCasting Director: DD RickettsInterview: March 13 in PhiladelphiaShoot: April - July 2009Location: PhiladelphiaSUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY ASAP DD RICKETTSSEEKING:[ YOUNG PRINCESS AZULA ]12yr-15yr old Latina, Mixed race or Indian girl - beautiful & small - with good improv skills. Willing to come to Philadelphia for audition Friday 3/13 in the afternoon. Please submit ASAP.
>>77356>beautiful & smallWell, that's one way of saying, "Like a human shark that learned how to make bedroom eyes."
>>77356no "or any other ethnicity"? wow
>>77364 Well, they seem to have decided that the Fire Nation is of a darker skin tone, so most other races would not work into their vision to well.
>>77364I think its rather obvious what race they've decided to go with.It's not too surprising if you apply a tad of common sense.
The "Caucasian, or any other ethnicity" thing was only for the four main characters.For everything else afterward, they got pretty specific. Oddly enough, one of the casting auditions for extras asked specifically for Mongolians, but I just can't really recall any casting calls where they ask for Chinese people, which is weird, considering what the show was.
>>77356>12yr-15yr oldWhat? Okay, I can let it pass that Azula in the animated series is passable for 15ish, but how am I supposed to be attracted to a friggin preteen? They gotta pick some angsty girl to play Azula, and as far as I'm concerned (coming from Indian heritage) Indian females, especially preteens are NOTHING like the cartoon depicted Azula. Guh, hopefully whomever they pick will be legal by the time the Third Book is finished. *hurp* I think I'm gonna be sick...
>>77371Azula in the show is canon 14 years old, even though she doesn't seem anything like any 14-year-olds in the real world I know of. Of course, film!Sokka is way older than show!Sokka, but I'm glad that at the very least Azula's casting is trying to work within the actual age range rather than doing what Hollywood always does (e.g. every "high school" film being made up of 20-somethings).
>>77371Worrying as the prospect is that an actor portraying an object of lust for you might be underage, it *does* say "Young Princess Azula" it could be a flashback.
>>77374Azula WAS cheering her dad on in the Agni Kai flashback.Could be that.
>>77377>>77374I'm hoping this is the case... True enough, this flashback was the only extent to which we saw Azula in the First Book. And the production time between the first two films would give the actress time to age. *phew*
>>77371>(coming from Indian heritage) I always imagine someone like Ray Sighn posting that.Sadly enough, it's never the case.
>>77373Actually, Azula was one of the characters I was hoping they'd cast a little older. Not Jackson Rathbone older, but like 16-18ish. As one of the principle villains, she really needs to look and feel dangerous. Having her cast slightly older than the heroes would help accomplish that. They even did that in the show. The Gaang was all voiced by kids and teens, while Zuko and the Dangerous Ladies were all voiced by adults.Also, Yamino, I love these designs. An Indian Fire Nation would actually be pretty cool. It wouldn't be accurate, but it would still fit in with the general world building of the original show.If they made it so that basically Air = Tibet, Water = Inuit/Sub-arctic people, Fire = India/South Asia, and Earth = China/East Asia, I don't think the fandom would have too much of a problem with it outside of some initial bitching.
>>77382I agree whole-heartedly. I can't see a 15 year old girl, Indian nonetheless, as menacing, manipulative, or generally evil. Bitchy maybe, but not evil...
>I can't take a young girl dramatically seriouslyHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw oh wait you're serious
>>77386>Indian nonethelessAre Indian girls eviller than average?
>Indian>Fire
>>77392/r/ Iroh doing Yoga Flame using Breath of Fire
>>77392That guy was a bitch to fight against.
I've been doing some research (eg. watching bollywood movie clips on Youtube) and I'm thinking of redesigning the Dangerous Desi, particularly Mai. I like her design, but it doesn't look Indian at all. I was also thinking of making her more South East Asian, perhaps Filipina or Indonesian.P.S. Here is a pretty Bollywood movie with 200 Indian!Ty Lee clones dancing backup. As I watched it, I thought the theme of the song was something that would make sense in a Fire Nation culture- she's singing about her love like a burning candle threatened to be put out by rain.(Posting link because it's giving me embed errors)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im2cCFzL8zE
>>77419...That's actually pretty, pretty good.But I think your style suits the series' visual flair just fine.
>>77419 Hey, Ty Lee's identical sisters found something to do!>>77183 Is it wrong for me to imagine her saying this in a Desi accent?
>>77538>Is it wrong for me to imagine her saying this in a Desi accent?Not wrong, but it's certainly adorable.
Giant watermark is giant... http://agent-ayu.deviantart.com/art/TyZula-Alternate-Culture-164873468Did you guys know that Indian/alternate culture is the prompt this month for the Tyzula group on DA? =) You can blame me for that. xDhttp://ty-zula.deviantart.com/
>>77419Holey carp! I thought I recognized this song... My friends made me watch this movie a few years ago. I was resistant but it turned out to be pretty fun. More on topic, now there needs to be large dance numbers like that one in the book 2 movie. I'm not sure where to fit them, but it must be done...
>>77613...Huh. I didn't know Bollywood was so widespread.
>>77613They can give Azula a classic Disney-style villain song, but with a Bollywood twist!
>>77613 I have ideas for how they could translate the Beach episode to an Indian setting.I see Indian!Ty Lee as being more of a dancer/entertainer than a contortionist, but I imagine she'd still be acrobatic. Just more in a dancer kind of way.
Ok, I have to ask, because my curiosity is killing me, and even if I *wanted* to pay to see this movie (which I don't) it's not even out here in Belgium yet....Is movie Azula anything like my design? O_O
>>80740Yours is better.
>>80740Okay, don't quote me on any of this. They showed her very briefly, and I don't know how well I'm remembering.Similarly to the first season of the show, they didn't show a lot of her in the movie. When they did show her in a brief scene at the end, half of it was a shot of her from behind, and the other half was a face shot, so we really didn't see a lot of her clothing. She seemed to have kind of like a black sheer veil on, though.As for her ACTUAL appearance? Yes, very much so. The actress looked a lot darker than she did in the photos that surfaced of her here -- like her skintone wasn't as pale, it was closer to how you've been coloring her. Her hair was down, and kind of messy from what I remember, and she had the red lips she had in the series. But otherwise I actually thought she looked very similar to your art. You called it!
>>80744Woah, hang about.You can't say that the hair was different, the clothes were different, the make up was different, then go on to say it looks just like a design you just listed all the major differences for.
>>80745Sure I can. What tiny bit of her outfit that showed was a little different, sure. But her face (features, I mean), coloring, and actual physical appearance were the same as Yamino's design. If that makes sense at all, I'm probably just not being very clear.
>>80746Also, keep in mind that what she wears in that scene might just be some formal garb, and she'll wear something different when she actually gets out and does stuff in the second movie. (If it even gets made, but that's an off topic debate for another thread.) So there's a high chance she could still fully resemble Yamino's design, later.
Here you go. Hijacked from someone over on LJ.
And this.
>>81460LOL.
>>81460>horrible zooming shot
>>81461Shite. They could've at least been more subtle with the joy, there.Also, somebody demote the director of photography. A mid-close up is fine to show both Iroh and Azula in that scene. Similar to how it was shot in the programme.
I don't see what pimping your fanart has to do with the movie."As anyone who is familiar with my Avatar fanart-"LOL
>>81577Apparently, when you can draw well and draw yuri, the attention seeking behavior is forgiven.
>>81577>>81583Apparently, posting and/or directing people to your Avatar fanart on an Avatar imageboard is somehow viewed as bad.
>>81577The Fire Nation in the movie is Indian, so Yamino drew Indian Azula and friends....That's explained in the OP, kinda seems like you're just being an ass.Of course, you might also be trollin', I dunno, my troll-sense vanishes when I'm tired.
>>81577>>81583u mad?
speaking of racebendingi found this picture of a ginger azula
>>81577lol u madattentionwhoring aside in this thread, the art is decent, therefore okay.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mai or Ty Lee get removed from a sequel. Especially Ty Lee as she isn't dark and edgy enough, in Shyamalan's "vision" of what Avatar should be. I imagine his Azula would just be reprising Zhao's failure and she wouldn't have lighting bending unless there's a storm, so she has a source to bend.
>>81663
>>81663>>Azula can't lightning bend unless there's a storm.>>That means the final fight of Book 2 can't happen in the Zutara cave. There might not even be a cave.I have mixed feelings about this.
>>81663Ty Lee and Mai will be there just to give some exposition.
>>81663Sorry, but... Isn't she like a complete firebending prodigy/master in a way? And can't the master firebenders in the Shyamaverse generate their own fire? And shouldn't it be the same case with Azula?I don't know myself. Just checking with you guys.
>>81694She's also a woman, and if Shamwow's treatment of Katara and the Kyoshi warriors is anything to go by, she'll either be utterly useless, or completely cut from the movie.
>>81694 Or gave her Roy's glovs.
>>81694>>can't the master firebenders in the Shyamaverse generate their own fire?They can, but it isn't very useful.
>>81700Yes.
Strange idea. Don't really want.IMO they look better asian.It matches more with canon, and it means we won't have to do the whole racebending shit again.