Alright, time for speculation. By 236, the freedom fighters will be gone. There are going to be two new hero teams. I safely believe one of them is going to be Sonic/Tails/Amy.

Any thoughts about the other one?

>>164286
That Sonic/Tails/Amy one's a safe bet. The second is probably going to be the Secret Freedom Fighters, maybe named Team Freedom? I would guess at Rotor and Bunnie, but she's all wrapped up in Antoine's mess and he's not very stealthy. I'm honestly having a hard time figuring who would be on the second roster, although it'll probably seem obvious in retrospect.

>>164290

I think that the second team will probably oppose Naugus. Maybe Rotor,Nicole or Mina can help?

>>164286

I think the team of Sonic, Tails, Amy has been confirmed by a solicit. That leaves the other team as Antoine, Rotor, Bunnie; or in case Antoine can't make it for some reason (hahahaha), I get a feeling we'll see more and more of Elias, so Elias, Bunnie and Rotor.

>>164265
Great job emulating the classic style, but it goes to show that Finitivus has way too much going on design wise to fit in that er.

>>164224
>Oh the arguments we can avoid if we read posts
>The problem is THEY didn't read my posts well enough, not the way I kept insisting I was only sorta using the word wrong, not completely using the word wrong

>>164286
>>164290
>>164293
>Sonic, Tails, and Amy are a whole team

Not even with Knuckles thrown in for a little conflict? Eesh. Team Snooze confirmed.

>>164299
The Freedom Fighters aren't known for infighting in the first place, I'm not sure why that needs to change now (ESPECIALLY since the team being formed at all is because of infighting in the first place.) There's enough going on that I don't think they'll need to be tearing each other down to be interesting.

>Team of Sonic, Tails, and Amy

I.e. Sonic and his two cheerleaders.

I kid, I kid.

>>164302
They may not be X-Men level dysfunctional, with Wolverine decking Cyclops every five minutes, but the Freedom Fighters work better than Team Sonic at providing opportunities for a little friction, some good natured snark, and a little wuv. There's a reason they added 7 of 9 to Star Trek: Voyager, and not just that she was hot. It's more interesting when there are sparks between characters. Negative sparks or positive ones, it's all good.


>>164306
You kid? Sounds accurate to me.

Hey, who knows? Maybe Sonic might get help from G.U.N

>>164302
>The Freedom Fighters aren't known for infighting in the first place,

They're known for being more than the Get Along Gang. In the expanded cast you get some interesting relationships between the chars. Antoine initially clashing with Sonic, growing toward mutual respect, with his romance with Bunnie slowly being planted, watered, growing, and blooming, the Moonlighting-esque relationship between Sonic and Sally, and very frequently some butting of heads with someone that's popped by to help (Knuckles, Rouge, Shadow, Silver, etc.). Plus the non-SEGA characters can go in interesting new directions, while the SEGA chars... it's not impossible for them to, just harder to do it in the confines of SEGA's wishes.

Just good buds Sonic and Tails, accompanied by Amy-the-girl-not-allowed-get-anywhere is a team that needs some pepper, IMHO.

Am I the only one who assumed the Chaos Emerald disappearing was because, you know, a large explosion went off in the Death Egg?

I figured it just dropped somewhere. Maybe Froggy will find it. Maybe it landed in a river and is drifting around.

Am I the only one who assumed the Chaos Emerald disappearing was because, you know, a large explosion went off in the Death Egg?

I figured it just dropped somewhere. Maybe Froggy will find it. Maybe it landed in a river and is drifting around.

>>164333
I think Snively stole it and lied about it.

On chaos emerlads going missing, that actually makes sense.

I mean think about it, when sonic goes super, does he just decide to fling all 7 of them back in to random hard to reach zones? No, because as we've seen in the comic after everytime he has become super there has been no trace of a gem (correct if wrong). The closest time I can think of an exception is during super sonic vs. hyper knuckles and even then that could have just been a 15th gem knux picked up.

Now putting this all together, one could argue that when the gems are used for powering up huge energy consuming items or going super they just act DBZ style and fly off to the ends of the earth (or perhaps return to the special zone now).

>>164342
Yeah, I just figured since there were millions emeralds, using them to go Super just used them up.

I think Robotnik enhanced Sally with the missing Emerald, to make her more of a threat than Metal Sonic.

>>164346
He enhanced her with a Power Ring. Eggman has no idea where the Chaos Emerald is.

>>164348

I'm going to write it off as MIA then. Maybe that's why the Freedom Fighters will split up.

>>164346
How come that second blast in the background isn't connected to the cannon it's being shot out of.
That makes it look like she's shooting it out of her hand somehow.

Actually, the new team lineups sound like a lose-lose proposition to me for a more painful reason than actual story quality: fanbitching.

If the issues with just the SEGA heroes end up being good, annoying "game only" diehards will use them as fuel to argue that the book should always be like that.

If the issues with just the SEGA heroes end up being bad, annoying "game only" diehards will claim that it was an act of deliberate sabotage, to try to make the Archieverse chars look necessary.

Either way, it draws way more attention to the fact that the book has some characters from the games and some that aren't in the games. Sorta like if two groups with a long history of fighting had settled down, started mixing with one another, and weren't really going after one another's throats any more, and then someone comes along and splits the room into the two groups again. Here we go again!

>>164351

It's not elaborated, but her wiki page says she can fire a "Mysterious Projectile" from her hand

I miss Marine, too bad Ian doesn't like her.

>>164352
Most people (especially the simple-minded) will interpret events to fit their world-view. News at 11.

>>164352

Well, I doubt Sonic and company will be entirely unaided when the Freedom Fighters are split up. Lupe from Satam will appear, so that will help out.

>>164355
Sure, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to put the spotlight on their world view when it can be avoided.

>>164356
Fair enough point.

>>163843
I remember when it was scheduled to come out around that time before.

In 2009.

10/10, would rage again, Sega.

>>164312

"Damnit McHedgehog, I'm sick of your attitude! You're a loose canon! You're taking Transport Truck as your partner or I'm taking you off this case!"

"Listen to me and you listen good. I don't trust Trucks. A truck killed my brother. He was a damn fine cop. Now he's just San Francisco roadkill. But that's the past, this is now. If we want to stop those Killer Whales from trafficking rings by the docks, we're gonna have to watch each other's backs. So lets get this clear right now. If we do this, we do this my way!"

"HONK HONK"

This summer...when justice is too slow...these two will

STEP.

IT.

UP.

Sonic the Hedgehog, GUN Truck and Morgan Freeman as Claudius Whaledoza in...

CITY ESCAPE

>>164402
It says a lot about how this has become an abusive relationship we just can't leave that people are going "yay, only seven more months!" instead of "SEVEN MORE MONTHS?!? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MINDS?!?!?"

>>164194
>1. Roboticizers work.
That's not a retcon, because it wasn't intended to make it like it never happened. Instead, Robotnik was trying to turn off the field that caused the roboticizer not to work, not to make it so it never happened in the first place. Doing that would have been a far more major change to the world.

You're pushing really hard to make this out to be something it's not. It's not them going back in time to change the present. It's not the writer completely ignoring something major. It's not a sudden change of character. The ten second thing was likely in there because of Genesis; since Ian had to put it in there, the build up to #230 was far greater because of the end of #225. The gap likely wouldn't have happened if we didn't have Genesis.

>>164197
>Not really. The BEM only covered people who were once robots, so Sonic and Robotnick were immune, but Sally wasn't.
Actually, we don't know the exact extent of it all. When we first got leaks of Mecha Sally there were all kinds of debates as to whether the anti-roboticization was a blanket to everyone, or if it was only those who had been previously roboticized. I don't think we ever got a firm answer/conclusion.

If it was a blanket application, then *everyone* is now subject to roboticization again. If it wasn't a blanket, then the effect may still be in place; Nicole said the beam would be inverted "to this exact spot", meaning Sally. If the field of the beam hit the entire room, then the effect is still in place because Sonic and Robotnik obviously aren't robots. But if it was indeed just her immediate area, then we can't be sure that Robotnik's plan worked. He hasn't tried to roboticize anyone else yet.

>>164466
But we KNOW the beam hit the entire room. That's why Metal Sonic, Silver Sonic, Nicole's handheld, the roboticizer itself and other mechanical crap in the room got fried. Eggman even says something like "I guess the immunity wasn't undone..."

Ian himself has stated that were it not for the sonic generation tie in mandate sally being gunned down would not have happened. I am pretty sure it was here so you can check the archives.

Eggmans' robotcier plan failed. The immunity was not lifted and sally was turned due to never getting beam injected in the first place. Had eggman managed to go through with the plan his legion and everything else robotic on the planet would have exploded, some mobians would have turned to bots, and humans would become statues.

>>164503
It was Genesis, not the "Sonic Generations" tie-in that did that.

Yes, they are two different things.

>>164567

Subtle difference, but Sega mandate for anniversary celebration is still Sega mandate for anniversary celebration.

>>164586

I'm pretty sure SEGA didn't go and tell them "hey guys, make a 4-issue non-sequitur arc that reboots continuity, please!"

>>164600
No.

They said "spend several issues on something referencing the new game, in some way". Genesis was not in the original plan, it was something shoehorned in to please SEGA. And, in that light, not bad.

Check the archives if you like, but the original plans as stated by Ian was no Sally getting gunned down.

>>164604
Other anon is right though. 4 issue arc was the last minute anniversary celebration. And that short tie in later on was for genesis.

And speaking of games, is Sonic 4 p2 looking good? Haven't been keeping up with it at all.

>>164834
From what I've seen... it looks okay. Awesome if you absolutely loved Sonic 3; all the environment look like straight rips from it.

Personally I'm going to wait until they "finish" Sonic 4 and release it all on disc.

I was pretty blown away from what they showed in that trailer. I've been waiting for Tails to become a playable character again for so long, and I hope this means they can start bringing Knuckles the rest of the cast back into the realms of actual importance. Team up combos are a really good idea too. Environments look like they have a lot going on in them, and the graphics are a huge step up from Episode 1. They don't even look like the same game, its insane!

All in all, it looks like they're actually experimenting with the formula again as opposed to trying to emulate it. From a design standpoint, that's what Sonic 4 needs to be. It's hard to tell if they've covered every point of criticism at this point, but I am hugely excited.

>>164079
Hard to say. Keep in mind, however, that Archie's Sonic empire now encompasses Sonic, Sonic Universe, and the Sonic Super Special magazine.

It's painful, because there honestly is a little good Sonic fanart on Deviantart, so it's worth the odd browse. But there's just so many STUPID people there it boggles the mind. And I'm getting more and more annoyed at the imbecilic Deviantart policy that says "it's perfectly okay to post scans from a comic you didn't make, even the key panels from a book not even out in stores for another week, provided you give a black border and make a 'demotivational poster' out of it".

>>164916
Sonic fandom in particular seems to attract an abnormal number of people on the autism spectrum. Not sure why.

>>164917
He's easy to draw.

>>164918
Except he isn't.

>>164917
Autistic individuals tend to enjoy video games (especially older ones) in general. One of the key traits of autism is a love of repetition, and wanting things to always happen basically the same way. Games where things are programmed to always follow specific patterns are thus well-suited to them. Moreover, a key element in the Sonic ad campaign was pushing the idea that Sonic was the coolest of the cool. Generally speaking, kids with personality disorders tend not to be popular. So there you are, someone that loves repetitive games, who isn't cool, who wants to make friends but isn't very good at it, and then Sonic comes out... in retrospect it's hardly surprising how heavily the character was latched onto by kids with personality disorders.

Oh, that's not to say that all Sonic fans are messed up in the head. Okay, well, yes, we are, but not all in that particular way. But things were pretty much set up right in the original recipe to guarantee a fanbase which would include an unusually high proportion of people with poor social skills and a love of keeping things exactly the same.

>>164923
That actually makes a frightening amount of sense.

>>164916
Oh yeah, you got to love how blatant the stealing is on Deviantart. I swear 90% of the anime-related stuff on there is traced from something else. This includes Sonic. Everything is either recolored promotional art, cheap re-renders of cutscenes, or just shitty sketches. The original stuff is usually either fetish-based, or so appalling bad you can't even click on it.

I suppose all of this is a consequence of their user base being made up of freaks and whiny teenagers, but still they need to get their house in order.

>>164916
Yeah, sometimes DA is pretty dumb, have they removed that policy that you can only browse up to 2000 results yet? I haven't browsed that site in some time.

>>164920
He is surprisingly hard to draw.

>>164916
I know what you mean. There's a few posters in particularly that have Mad Skillz when it comes to whipping up a fury from people that don't even read the book by posting random panels out of context. I try to just ignore them, but you often slam right into their idiocy while browsing for the good stuff (good pic related).

>>164604
no they didn't. They wanted "something for the 25th anniversary" and they wanted a Generations adaptation. We got the Generations adaptation in 230, Genesis was something else

>>164962
Considering Generations in and of itself was basically a 25th Anniversary celebration, I feel you're splitting hairs.

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