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89476 No. 89476
I just came to this conclusion today. Toph is a dirty fighter. Think about it, when an Airbenders attacks you, they blow you away with wind. When a waterbenders attacks you they throw water-tentacles or Ice-razors at you, when Firebenderts attack you they flame-thrower your ass, and normal earthbenders pick up huge rocks and lob them at you in much the same way as the previous elements are used. Not Toph.

When you fight Toph, she rarely tosses large rocks unless she's going up against a real tank. Toph does one attack, over and over. She pulls the rug out from under you. It's not that she's not strong, either. She held up the entire library palace for a good long time. No, she just likes taking people down dirty with small earthbending strikes that don't overpower her adversary, but stop them at their weakest point. It fits, I suppose with her whole foot-fixation that the series centered around her, but damn. From the Boulder, to the snobs of Ba Sing Se, to the pilots of a firenation airship. She doesn't come at you head on. She trips you, watches you fall on your face and smiles.
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>> No. 89477
I wouldn't call her style "fighting dirty" per se, because she certainly is willing to take things head on. But she definitely isn't above using somebody's own momentum to trip them up.
>> No. 89478
Aang talked about these methods in "The Drill," but he made it sound as though they are the essence of earthbending - waiting and listening for the right time to strike, and using your enemy's momentum against them. It's like how Zuko used rage to fuel his firebending during most of the series but learned a 'truer' technique from the dragons. Toph is just practicing earthbending the way it was meant to be practiced and anyone who whines about it is babby.
>> No. 89479
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89479
>She trips you, watches you fall on your face and smiles.
>watches

Oh, and it's pretty obvious that OP is The Boulder.
>> No. 89481
"Dirty" fighting is just a concept made up by people who aren't any good at actually fighting anyway.
>> No. 89482
"Everyone wants to go to TITS for the summer!"
>> No. 89483
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>>89482

>implying everyone doesn't want to go to TITS every single day
>> No. 89485
Using an opponents own wieght and momentum against them is a fundamental martial arts concept. True mastery of it allows smaller and physically weaker fighters to overcome larger opponents.

Although bending makes Toph size and strength almost irrelevant, they applied the same fighting concept that she would use in actual martial arts to her bending. And the results were awesome.
>> No. 89515
Another perspective to martial arts is that they are supposed to be about producing the most impact while receiving the least damage. The better move is the shorter one that produces the biggest results.

Hung Gar is all about this kind of economy, actually.
>> No. 89523
Dirty fighting doesn't exist. You win, at any cost, especially during a war.
>> No. 89524
>>89523
>Dirty fighting doesn't exist.
Yes it does, but what Toph's methods are arguably not dirty fighting.
>> No. 89527
Dirty fighting is the purest form of fighting. The concept of honour in mortal combat is one of mankinds more ridiculous inventions.
>> No. 89571
>>89527
There must always be honor, for we are not savages.
Your opponent is just as human as you are and should be treated with respect.
To fail to do so is to dishonor yourself and your name. You might as well have lost.
>> No. 89572
>>89571
I don't know what you guys are talking about, but if someone is going attack you, you sure as hell are going to use any force necessary to bring them down. Claw out their eyes, kick them in the groin, poke the middle part of the neck (try putting two fingers on the part just above the chest) and bring out your wild side. There is no honor in combat, nor in war. There is only savagery that only where only the killer instincts succeed.
>> No. 89573
>I've never participated in formal martial arts combat, ever.

There is a difference between war and the above. Avatar simulated martial arts.
>> No. 89577
>>89573
Avatar used martial arts, but the period was in a time of war. You do whatever it takes to win. There's no honor if you're dead and on the side that lost.
>> No. 89578
>>89577
There is only Bushido.
Heaven will look favorably upon those who maintain their honor.
>> No. 89580
>>89578
More like you'll end up one with the heavens, probably from cutting out your own stomach after you lose the battle.
>> No. 89581
Well, this took an odd turn.
>> No. 89655
>>89580
It is the fool who does not understand honor.
Is you fool?
>> No. 89683
>>89571
>>There must always be honor, for we are not savages.
>>Your opponent is just as human as you are and should be treated with respect.
>>To fail to do so is to dishonor yourself and your name. You might as well have lost.

Play chess and shut up.
>> No. 89684
Bushido was created in the 19th century by Nitobe Inazō to sell books about Japan.
>> No. 89786
>>89684
20th century, actually.
>> No. 89787
>>89655
lrn2grammer, wannabe-samurai
>> No. 89837
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89837
Of course Toph fights dirty. earthbending is all about using rocks and dirt.
>> No. 89860
>>89837
Thread over.
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>>89479
THE BOULDER TAKES ISSUE WITH THAT COMMENT.
>> No. 96437
lmao wow this was entertaining.
>> No. 97432
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97432
the first precept of bushido is willingness to die for one's honor (there is a loaded word) that being said in a dual it is understood that lives are on the line. It should be understood that though the philosophy behind the sword is important to understand the martial art as whole you must remember it is MARTIAL first and ART second you either attack until the stop (be it death, surrender or the sound of the bell) or resign your self to defeat which depending on the fight might mean your death.
>> No. 97433
>>89837
...Whatever happened to those Avatar Legos?
>> No. 97596
>>97433
They only made like two sets during season 1
>> No. 97690
>>97596
And then they vanished into the ether?

Man, this and the action figures. Why is something so toyetic so unexploited?
>> No. 97836
>>I just came to this conclusion today. Toph is a dirty fighter

Well she IS an *earth* bender...
>> No. 97837
>>97690
They had toys of the movie

But otherwise, I dont think there's an audience for merchandise for Avatar
>> No. 97838
>>97837

>But otherwise, I dont think there's an audience for merchandise for Avatar

Bullshit.

Gonna use the same analogy I once saw during the whole "comics appealing to women" issue.

If you put food in front of a hungry baby and it doesn't eat, do you assume the baby simply doesn't eat food or do you assume it doesn't like what it's being given?

Mattel fucked up hardcore. There were, no bullshit, 23 different toy sets or products that included Aang. 8 that included Zuko (9 if you count The Blue Spirit,) and four of Sokka? Wanna know how many included Katara*, Azula, or Toph.

None.

Zero.

Not once, in all the "Water Attack Aangs" and the like or any of the other toys, did they ever include the female characters, which basically fucked them over in terms of missing out on a demographic, not to mention the angry letters that came after. Mattel decided that two Aangs in Water Tribe outfits would sell better than a single Katara, Toph, Azula, Ty Lee, or Mai.**

*Peltztara of the movie doesn't count because she was horrible and so was the movie.

**Don't tell me that those last two were minor/secondary characters that wouldn't sell. They made Bumi and Jet figures, too, and the last action figures released (though they weren't released in the USA) were in 2007, well after season 2 had started. They made "plans" to release a Katara, but I guess they wanted to give us Dragon Armor Aang first.
>> No. 97839
>>97838

Yeah, but none of those "boy" toys sold very well either.
>> No. 97840
>>97838
Food is necessity.

Toys of children's cartoons are not.

And what >>97839 said, if those toys sold well, they'd still make more of them, even if none of them are girls. But they aborted that toyline all together in a hurry, which means not even the boys were selling much. I doubt a few figures of the female characters (which do sell less, toy companies aren't stupid, if they could make money off something they'd whore it out in a heartbeat) would have made it some booming success.

And If people are dumb enough to buy Super Armor Superman or Motocycle Flash from Justice League Unlimited, they'll buy Dragon Armor Aang.
>> No. 97841
>>97840

>Food is necessity.

>Toys of children's cartoons are not.

It's an analogy, not a direct comparison. Besides that, I was more arguing against the idea that there wasn't an audience/market for Avatar toys, and ranted about how they never bothered actually really merchandising Avatar.

Fair point about the lack of sales (though I can't find any information about how well/bad the toys actually did) but DC is kinda a bad comparison. They have a lot more brand recognition there and more enthusiastic collectors. Some Grandma most likely isn't gonna know who Aang or Sokka is, but to heck with it, here's a Superman toy, and little Junior likes Superman, right? What is this? Kryptonite Suit Superman? He probably doesn't have that one. Plus, DC has all those statues, buts, and sculpts that would appeal to older collectors, in addition to the toys.

I wonder if one of the factors is that they never made that many toys to begin with, some toys in the second and and they never once made any Season 2 toys, even though the toy line was cancelled during the Season 3 hiatus in 2007.
>> No. 97842
>Plus, DC has all those statues, butts, and sculpts that would appeal to older collectors, in addition to the toys.

Now I am reminded there will never be a Portait of Pirates line for Avatar.

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No Bikini Katara feels bad man
>> No. 97843
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97843
>Toph is a dirty fighter.
I'm ok with this.jpg
>> No. 97844
>>97842
Appropriately skilled fans could always do garage kits. Considering how limited the runs of garage kit castings are, they almost never attract lawyers anyway.
>> No. 97852
>>97844
Garage kit? Is that like fan-mase? All fan made stuff tends to look like junk from what I've seen. If MLP can't even get good looking fantoys with their simple designs, I don't think the Avatar fanbase can do it.
>> No. 97854
>>97852
Garage kits are the same as resin kits, but they're made by amateurs and the moulds are made using cheaper material, so they can only make a handful of kits per sculpt.

Anyone who can sculpt reasonably well can make them.

Incidentally, as 3D printers start getting into consumer price ranges, I'm going to be very interested to see what happens to the figurine/sculpture/action-figure market.
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